I really enjoyed reading The Boat. What I appreciated the most was the ability of Nam Le to include so much detail and description in each story. I felt that unlike the other short story collections we read this one really gave us a full background, character portrayals, and multiple plotlines. His use of description of the setting was so impeccable that without even telling where the story took place we would have been able to figure it out. His ability to intertwine individual aspects of the plot within each other really made each story interesting and fulfilling. For instance in Tehran Calling, Sarah’s relationship with Paul, paralleled by her relationship with Pavlon gave the story depth and made it more than just what is structured as one chapter in the book. Going back to what we said in class today about portraying violence and atrocity in literature and comparing The Pink Intuition’s use of blunt detail to Nam Le’s use of storytelling, I really feel as Nam Le’s technique was more effective because it hooked his reader into a web of drama, relationships, and serious problems that tapped on our emotions and made us somehow, relate it to our own lives, not necessarily because of the problems themselves as more worldly but because they are surrounded by emotion. In The Pink Institution the emotion that the characters felt was displayed in their actions but not necessarily through the words of the author which although had a powerful effect, did nothing for us since most of us do not attempt suicide, or take the same paths of actions the characters in the Pink Institution did. While emotions are universal, actions are individual.
Going back to the first story, I realized after the class discussion, that not only did his dad burn his story which signifies that he can’t turn experience into words, but he also keeps referring to the fact that he was mad at his dad because of what he didn’t know at the time but found out later. On page 28 he says, “If I had known then what I knew later, I wouldn’t have said the things I did.” I wonder if maybe this means he wrote a different novel and then realized this and then from there wrote The Boat? It would be interesting to read into that line.
I also noticed that Nam Le changed some things in each story but also kept the structure the same. For instance in Cartagena he took out all quotation marks and used Spanish language, keeping the words, grammar and sentence structure parallel with the lives of the characters. In Hiroshima father, mother, brother, etc. were all capitalized which is representative of the lives of the characters in the sense that their parents and family played a different role in the lives of people in Japan and earned more respect. In the story that takes place in Australia the dialect changed again. Words such as mate were substituted for friend and mum for mom. One thing I found that was common to all the stories however was that he jumped between past and present, in most cases without any real transition or warning. This was effective since he didn’t really have much space for transition, but I also thought it took away from some of each story since before I figured out the pattern in each individual story I was often confused. Another common aspect to each story was the lack of an ending. I also found this effective for the author's purposes but I personally didn’t like it since I was left with all these questions that had been answered would have made a bigger impact on me.
I agree with Alyse about Le's narrative technique to display violence and atrocity. It was much easier to understand the pain of the characters when the reader had some background information to build from. This is unlike the blunt description in the Pink Institution. I definitely prefer the storytelling approach. Even though I didn't particular "like" all of the characters in the novel, I was able to sympathize with the pain they were feeling.
ReplyDeleteI also felt like Le did an amazing job of describing and building a character within such a short amount of time that each story required. I almost felt as though I was reading an entire book for each story, even though it was only 20 or 30 pages. I am not used to reading short stories (until this class) and I prefer reading an entire long novel, so I liked Le's ability to really draw the reader in.
The endings of each story were a little frustrating for me. I like to have things wrapped up at the end and Le's style was the complete opposite. What did others of you think about this?
I think that having an ending that doesn't fully resolve things can be advantageous. Lemony Snicket's "A Series of Unfortunate Events" did the same thing, and it was one of the more entertaining series in recent memory.
ReplyDeleteBy using open-ended endings like that, the author is trying to tell us something. People expect things to fit together, to be orderly. They like things to be carried out in full. These stories remind us that this isn't always possible, that sometimes there are loose ends and there's nothing we can do to tie them up (in Snicket's case), or that we likely won't know the real ending behind cliffhangers like the ones in The Boat.
That aside, I've got to say that I liked this book a lot. Cultural differences would explain the inconsistency in quote implementation. I've read a lot of stories with no quotes for no apparent reason. It was a relief to finally have that explained at least once. Just a personal pet peeve.
I agree with the previous comments that not having a clear ending can be irritating but, at times, 'advantageous' for the story (Not that I like this literary style!!).
ReplyDeleteI liked this collection a lot more than the pink institution but I still found myself asking 'what just happened'. The story that comes to mind was "Meeting Elyse". I was completely confused by this story and actually read it twice. I find that not real ending, endings are characteristic of contemporary pieces but I don't really understand why other than it seems more artistic, because it is abstract.
I think that a good book involves the reader engaging in the stories and interpreting the events in their own way. For example when people read a story and they are introduced to characters, the reader developes an image of what that character looks like. Then if the book is made into a movie and actors are used to represent the characters, some people are left dissappointed in the difference between their idea of what the character looks like and Hollywood's idea. I think this same concept can be related to the end of a story. Throughout each chapter in The Boat I found myself guessing at what the ending would be, creating the ending that I wanted. Because Nam Le left the end open, I was able to keep my idea of what I wanted the end to be like. This allows for each reader to interact with the book and no one is left dissapointed after reading the conclusion.
ReplyDeleteThe quote “If I had known then what I knew later, I wouldn’t have said the things I did.” on page 28 is left for interpretation. In my opinion it is saying that the son realized later that it wasn't his story to tell. That the story belonged to his father and he didn't have the right to use it to make money. He realizes later how much the story means to his father and understands why he burns it.
I agree with almost everything that has been said here. I definitely felt more personally invested with the characters in The Boat because of Le's magnificent character development. Like JWestfall (sorry I'm not sure what your full name is), I felt like some of Le's stories (specifically Halflead Bay) read like complete novels. I have never been as into a short story as I was into Halflead Bay.
ReplyDeleteAs far as the ambiguous endings, I guess I actually have ambiguous feelings about them. Part of me really enjoys having an open-ended conclusion that makes the reader have to put in a lot of thought. These endings enable the reader's personality to come out in how they interpret them. However, some stories feel like they need a more concrete ending and can be frustrating when you don't get one (Tehran Calling is an example of this for me). Regardless of whether I personally enjoy the way Le ends each of his stories, I can appreciate the artistic vision required to pull them off.
I want to talk about Sarah from "Tehran Calling." What do you guys think about her? Le portrays her as disconnected, unhappy, and maybe even a little superficial. Le hits us hard with information about her personality and character almost immediately as he says on page 182 "He was the aberration of her life: the relief from her lifelong suspicion that she was, at heart, a hollow person, who clung to hollow things."
ReplyDeleteIt's funny to me that Sarah is portrayed as a "hollow" person but has a best friend who has so much focus, passion, and purpose in life. Even more strange is that they are best friends, yet the way they interact you would think they aren't even freinds at all. Parvin asks Sarah to stop coming to the studio to hear her radio show. Sarah even says she doesn't really buy into what Parvin is doing.
Sarah also seems to act on impulse and capriciousness. She let Paul sleep with her on their first date. She decides to just get up and go to Iran to escape, etc. Sarah just seems to be lacking any kind of purpose in life or motivation. Do you guys agree with me or do you think I have portrayed her wrong?
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ReplyDeleteI agree with Michael that the characters in The Boat are much easier to connect with than those of the Pink Institution, because more information about their thoughts and background is given. But even with some background given, I found it hard to understand the motivations of certain characters. I found Sarah in "Tehran Calling" to be very confusing. I kept trying to figure out her motivation for coming to Tehran, and how she really felt about Parvin--if they were really friends. I think that Sarah dislikes Parvin because Parvin has a course for her life, and a passion for something, and Sarah has lost that.
ReplyDeleteAnother situation I found confusing was the end of "Halfway Bay," and the fight between Dory and Jamie. Can anyone shed some light on Allison's behavior? Did she want the fight to end or was she egging it on?
Vanessa, I had the notion that Allison was egging on the fight between Dory and Jamie. This is because when she was on the beach talking to Jamie she would say that Jamie was different, but she would not deny that she was hanging out with Dory. She said that they weren't together, but she did not say that she didn't hangout with him. It seems like she liked the double attention. Jamie offered her a sense of comfort and caring that Dory didn't, but it seems that Dory could offer her things that Jamie couldn't. So, I feel that she was playing both sides. Oh yea, another give away was when Alison told Jamie that Dory would listen to her. That gives me an indication that there is some connection between her and Dory that she is still hanging on to.
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I can't help noticing how *very* focused on Le's characters these comments are; it's as if "The Pink Institution" starved you for character development and narrative structure! ;) I'm very interested in the question Alyse brings up and that most of you connect with about the endings, or lack thereof. It'll be interesting to take some time in class to interrogate our notion of "ending", or a satisfying ending, and why it can be so irritating not to have narrative resolution.
ReplyDeleteI think Alison's behavior was just that. She wanted the attention and she almost wanted to see guys fight over her. I cant tell you how many people I know like that from my home town, and that is the beauty of Le's writing. Especially in the story "Halfway Bay" but really throughout the entire novel all of the characters were real and engaging and seemed to be in real and engaging situations. With "Halfway Bay" although I am not Australian, nor have I ever even been to Australia, I was able to immediately connect with every character in the story. I knew Jamie, I mean to be quite honest, in high school I was Jamie to a degree. I know soo many Alisons, they thrive in rural Southeastern North Carolina apparently, and of course we all know slow meatheads like Dory. The location as well. I live on the coast and we will often go fishing or surfing or have parties out on the beach and many of our firsts romantic entanglements happen late night on the beach. Nam Le describes everything so vividly I was just able to read without strain to imagine the scenario. It was a nice change of pace in that it was simply readable. All of his stories gave enough information and description, as many of you have already said on these posts, to really make it one of the most straight forward reading experiences you can come out with. I was able to read the book and only take away from it what Nam Le wanted me to take away from it. In "The Pink Institution", if Saterstrom wanted to say... let the reader come away with just an understand of women in the South, then it would not of worked because there is just way too much to digest in the way that she writes it, the language, the meaning behind the ghost stories, the difficult task of even just figuring out who is who, etc... Nam Le simplifies the reader's responsibility gives the readers everything, and just tells the story so the reader doesnt have to fret over anything but the stories and the emotions they evoke. Of course he wants to also prove his whole point on ethnic literature, but primarily he just wants to tell the people some good stories. At least that's what I took from the whole thing.
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